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The following podcast contains adult themes,

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sexual content, and strong language.

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Basically, all the good stuff.

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Hello,

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and welcome to the last ever

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episode of my dad wrote a

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porno, guys have made it. Okay.

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That

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will never not sound weird.

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I know. But, you know, we're fine with it. It's

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great. And We couldn't be luckier today

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because we do have a guest with us. We

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couldn't not really.

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We couldn't end the series without

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this

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exclusive. Yeah. I can't believe he's

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here. I'm I'm not looking

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at him. He's just right there. And

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he obviously requires no introduction. However,

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I have to a little something. Okay. Yeah. Hold on. Just

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to fluff him up a bit. He deserves the headline.

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He does. He does. Yeah.

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We are so so it's it's at an

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honor for me to introduce to

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the mic for the first time ever.

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The Banksy of pornography

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himself of the brilliantly bonkers,

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genius that is rocky

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flintstone. Hi, dad.

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Hi, guys. This is a

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world exclusive. This is your first

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interview ever on Mike. Correct. Wow.

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I'm personally very excited to have you here. I'm just

1:20

gonna

1:20

say we should've had him on sooner. Yeah.

1:23

I'm so so glad that we're finally doing

1:25

this. It feels like a

1:27

full circle moment. Yet, well, when Jamie

1:29

said that we were gonna read your books on

1:31

a podcast, what was your reaction?

1:34

What's a podcast? Yep. That was the

1:36

first question here. It was so

1:38

new. Right? Well, we never thought it would have the

1:40

success of being probably the biggest podcast

1:43

in the world. But might

1:46

drop. But

1:48

no. Happy. Fine. Use it.

1:50

You know, let's get on with it. And and

1:52

you've never minded our constant

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We like to say critique. Yeah. Some people

1:57

will be saying ripping to shreds,

1:59

taking the piss. Yeah. Never mind did any of

2:01

that. No. Because my turn will come. Oh.

2:05

Hang on. What you'll get into your podcast about you

2:07

critique our critiques. It's a damn good

2:09

idea. Because It's got a bit escher. Somebody's

2:11

got to do it. I tell you because you miss so

2:13

many lovely little golden

2:16

eggs you call them. Do

2:18

we? Oh, god. It's unbelievable how

2:20

much you miss. Actually, the punters, the

2:22

fans do get it -- Yeah. -- because they've been listening

2:25

to this maybe ten times now. Which

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is wonderful. I mean, I listened to it once and that's enough

2:29

for me. Put

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it on the poster. We've got to climb Can

2:34

we go way back to the

2:36

beginning? And just

2:38

ask a question, which is a question that we

2:41

started the very first episode with,

2:43

I think, which is

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why? Why? Basically,

2:47

I'd move to this

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lovely place just outside London. And

2:51

we'd finished renovating the property, which

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hadn't been renovated for ninety years.

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Okay. After the pavilion was built, I sat down

2:58

and started writing this, Belinda blinked.

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You inspired. Oh, yes. Well,

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I had nothing else to do, you see? I needed something

3:04

to start doing. But why porn?

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Well, why not, James? But there

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is a stranger, and you could actually be in second.

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No, we were driving Monday. And of course, as you

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all know, Bulma and I have written

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sixty two books before this. Like,

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how to buy a house in Brazil, how

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to survive the Brazilian World Cup

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back

3:24

in nineteen sixteen. I think, look, twenty

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sixteen. Sorry. During

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the

3:29

war? Yes. And buying

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a house in Ireland, all these little travel books.

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And of course, there are selling Absolutely.

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Zero. So as we're in

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the car going somewhere, Wilma says to

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me, book sales are terrible. And I

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said, well, Wilma, As you know, the

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only thing that sells these days is sex

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and will necessity. Yeah, I can't

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write it, and I said, Yes,

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I can. And I did. I see.

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So actually, Wilma was the inspiration

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for you to write, Paul. Correct? Wow.

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That is a revelation. Yeah. But I don't think

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she actually thought you'd genuinely write

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Porno Dad. No.

4:06

We've always been a little bit worried about

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Wilma. Because I know in the early

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days when we first started doing the podcast, she

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wasn't overly

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keen. She didn't know where it was going to lead

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to.

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No. Do you think she's okay now? Nope.

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She

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makes out like she is when I see her.

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She's a very good actress. Right.

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Okay.

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A lot of people ask why you

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shared it with Jamie and not with your daughters.

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Because Jamie is a male, he can stand

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this rigorous entertainment. Is that really

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why? Absolutely. This is not

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for the faint heart of this stuff, you know? Oh, you knew that

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when you were sending it to him that this was raunchy

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stuff. I am the biggest wind up merchant

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in the world, well, the Irish world.

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And I've sent it to Alan to see,

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hey, would he read it? Because he doesn't read anything I

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send him. Right? Be. That's true.

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Isn't it? Not anymore. I read

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everything now. Matriculously.

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I'm a lawyer on speed dial. Pete, would

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he get passed the first page because

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blinder blinked, it wasn't a dream. Someone just asked

5:02

her to move her blouse. It sort

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of attracts your attention and you think, we've got to

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read the next sentence. So you

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might say you were writing those

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words with

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Jamey and Mind. And then did you

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get really into it?

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Did you think I've just

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got natural flare for this.

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I have no natural flare for this. I was I

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can put I would agree. But I just wonder why you thought I can

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put fireplaces onto walls. That's a flare.

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I can do that. Not not writing.

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No. I'm rubbish. Well,

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at least he admits it. I don't think you are

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though because actually having been

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able to take a step back, Belinda

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blinked. It wasn't a dream

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the job interviewer had just asked her to like, that's

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actually a really good opening to a book. Yeah. And

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people have said that. Yeah. Oh, very compelling.

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Captain's reading for eight years. Well, when we visited

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the you guys played the

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New York City radio, music

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hall

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venue. Those those words in a different order.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was talking

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to you even them. If I

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look at the right City. They

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sent us around this big book because we were

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in the dressy rooms. And this big book

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was full of all the people who played

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there over this past three years? There's a guess

6:10

book, wasn't it? It was a kind of business book.

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And they wanted to each put in a sentence

6:14

of what we wanted to say.

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Mhmm. And that what I put in was Blinder

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Blinkard wasn't a dream. She just arrived at the radio

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city, music hall play house. Questive.

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Hold on. It's so crazy. Let me try to

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save the neighbor radio city music hall.

6:30

Say house. No. That

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that that was good. Listen. Yeah. He was like,

6:34

independently. It wasn't a dream. We just

6:37

played radio city. Yeah. You just yeah. That was a

6:39

good quote. Yeah. It was a it was a kind of rocky

6:41

remix. But I did say that rocky and give her

6:43

two kisses. Of course. I mean, dad, there's

6:45

nothing that you haven't signed. I mean, if you can

6:47

find something in the world that hasn't signed, it's

6:49

worth fortunately. He

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does love giving out those business cards. He really

6:53

does. He really does. And so, like, obviously,

6:56

you started writing. You got into the

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writing. And you just retire. So you're kind of

7:00

bored as well, I don't know. Yes. That's correct. Yeah.

7:02

And it's a good thing to do. Though, of course,

7:05

nobody ever retires really. And aren't

7:07

you the living proof of that down? Because the day you were tired of

7:09

the day you die, you understand that, oh, hundred percent.

7:11

So you must never stop doing your thing. Because

7:13

that's thing like, I think what is really great

7:15

about you and your kind of

7:17

story is that you were

7:19

a build. You had many jobs that you throughout your life.

7:21

You were in sales, back in the eighties, you know, you've

7:23

done a lot of things. And Maybe

7:26

would I say, if I say that your most successful

7:28

work has come later in

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life, I've matured like a good

7:32

cheese. Absolutely. And like, it's

7:34

a good thing to say, never give up. Right?

7:36

Never count yourself out. Book sixty

7:38

five was blinda blinked. Don't understand

7:40

what that means. When we've written sixty two, sixty

7:42

four books previously and none of them were doing

7:44

anything great. Wow. We were selling

7:47

three or four a year.

7:50

But once Blender Blink came along and then you guys

7:53

got the podcast. We started to sell eight a

7:55

week. It was weird. I think it's not eight

7:57

a week. I'm dizzy. It's big

7:59

stuff.

7:59

It really is big stuff.

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I tell you the the money coming in

8:03

from Amazon is really good stuff. A a

8:05

way I can take one more for a meal once a year.

8:07

Wow. But that's what's nice about this whole

8:09

kind of thing is that you've been able to

8:11

spoil mom and, like, take it. Like, you

8:13

you bought the car named it Belinda. Was

8:15

the blue number called Belinda. I

8:17

haven't appreciated that.

8:18

I do love that mom has been riding Belinda

8:20

for the past eight years. It's kind

8:22

of fitting. How she served

8:24

you oh, Berlin. Oh, brilliant. Very, very

8:26

good. You've been all that blow good. Flat tires.

8:28

I saw me, but maybe don't dispensed four times in

8:30

her. Flat

8:31

tires. I mean, I just immediately think

8:33

of that

8:34

from the books. I just always think of that

8:36

scene. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Out on the road. That's right. That's

8:38

where it came from. Oh, really? Okay.

8:40

Everything's related and blended blanked apart

8:42

from the sexual act. I was gonna say god forbid said,

8:44

please. Hang on. So it's autobiographical. It's

8:47

over. I'm sixty plus now, and

8:50

all my life has been put into these books in

8:52

some way or another. Give us another example. I'm trying

8:54

to think of something else when Jim Sterling

8:56

-- Yep. Meets Belinda in his hotel in

8:58

USA, and he was officers -- Yeah. -- and

9:00

he showed her his monster dick, and she

9:03

sucks at she has to put her teeth afterwards.

9:06

Right. Happen to be many times. Which bit?

9:08

To

9:08

get

9:09

rid of the flaky skin? I'm sorry.

9:12

What? You've had to flush your teeth to get rid of

9:14

flaky skin. Many times. From

9:16

eating meat. Hey,

9:18

fish. Chicken.

9:22

But not the same scenario

9:23

as is written. In a row, give it a little

9:25

bit of lateral times. How

9:27

god. That's the first example you

9:29

give this of how it relates to your life.

9:31

I also have just it's been eight

9:34

years. Turns out reading it

9:37

and actually looking at my father

9:39

and hearing him say, suck.

9:41

Suck dick. Yeah. Is actually

9:44

one of the most I'm so glad we're ending that. I think

9:46

no. I think we got a new podcast. Might

9:48

that read the porno to me? His

9:50

own porno to me. I chose that example

9:53

because all the fans, when

9:55

they do a poll or whatever, red it,

9:57

Twitter. That's the scene they all hate

9:59

the most.

9:59

Why?

10:00

Because it's so gross. Bless you. The teas.

10:02

Yeah. The flaky skin on it. So you're all over

10:04

the the Reddit and I watch everything

10:06

else. And watch everything. I'm watching

10:09

you all. If you've

10:10

ever listened to the show, Rocky has your details

10:12

and he's watching you. He sounds like Liam Neeson,

10:14

business. Of a particular set of

10:16

skills, and I'm watching you at every time.

10:20

Well, let's go more into your writing process.

10:22

So when you're planning the books

10:24

because obviously there's a lot of thought goes into them.

10:26

Huge amount. I mean, minutes of work.

10:29

James, I'm writing stylists. I sit down

10:31

and write. I don't fuck about.

10:34

Right. It keeps the fucking for the pages. Correct.

10:38

So sorry. So you literally just as

10:40

we thought you literally just sit down and go.

10:43

I'd love the girl we met in Los Angeles. Rachel

10:45

Blum. Rachel Blum. I had a pleasure of

10:47

speaking to Rachel for ten minutes. Many

10:49

many hours. LA. And I said to you

10:51

are the only person who has got my writing talent

10:54

completely correct. You see, I'm a

10:56

cypher from God or the Norse God

10:58

as I like to put it. I'm a

11:00

cypher from Can you imagine? Can

11:02

you imagine? I'm just like Oh, bit fan

11:05

from wheels. Michael Seam,

11:07

like the tune. There's

11:09

so many name drops. And he said,

11:11

his grandfather was a preacher. Right? And

11:13

as he said, he didn't make a name pepper. He just

11:15

spoke the Lord's name in one full

11:17

sweep. To all the people. Okay. So

11:19

And I get my writing. My writing comes from a

11:21

divine source or perhaps it's the alien

11:24

source somewhere else. So God is

11:26

telling you to write Billing to Bling. Not

11:28

God. Could it be the devil? Could could it be the

11:30

devil? Well, as you had that baptismal

11:32

preacher from the USA on footnotes

11:34

once, And she said she does great

11:36

works with Blinder Flintstone her post

11:38

advertising.

11:40

Yeah. So just to kind of

11:42

clarify that. So Emma Thompson

11:44

called you a fucking genius. Yeah. Michael

11:46

Sheen, your great friend from Wales. He

11:48

compared it to Shakespeare -- Yes. -- Lynn

11:50

Manuel Miranda said that you had

11:52

Mad Libs that could put two packs

11:55

of shame, but you're saying that Rachel Bloom

11:57

thinking that you are getting your books from

11:59

an alien life

11:59

form is the most accurate. Correct?

12:02

Okay.

12:02

It's terrifying.

12:05

I tend to agree actually at this point.

12:08

Do you go into the pavilion to write? Is

12:10

it always the pavilion? Have you done it when you're

12:12

on holiday? Where'd you find is your kind of ideal

12:14

setup to write or write best in the song,

12:16

James? Yes.

12:17

Paint a picture. Your good with words, paint a picture.

12:20

What if we wandered in and saw

12:21

you writing, what would we see? Well, you'd have to have to have

12:23

vertebrae to write with not many

12:25

clothes on, just nice and warm. But

12:27

I tend to write in the afternoons around about two

12:29

o'clock to four o'clock. I can push out about a hundred

12:31

and one thousand two hundred words in that into

12:33

ours. And

12:36

Wow. That's

12:39

that's frantic. Yeah.

12:41

But there's which coming down the line night. In a

12:43

hundred and twenty minutes, you can do

12:45

twelve hundred words. sounds like ten words

12:48

a minute. But we're also, like, just no

12:50

deleting. No. No. No. It's all pretty rough

12:52

stuff on that, Jeff. I agree. Yeah. Oh,

12:54

so is edited? Well,

12:57

yes. Because I'm very keen on good

12:59

spelling and punctuation. Yeah.

13:01

love the semi colon. It's fantastic little

13:03

beast I think you've really single handedly

13:06

brought back the semicolon. I've started using

13:08

the semicolon way more in my writing

13:10

because of dad. Can I ask, actually, because I am

13:12

genuinely intrigued how what

13:14

is the correct usage of a semicolon? This

13:17

is a pause really. It's longer than a it's

13:19

it's not quite as long as a full stop, which is Americans

13:21

the Americans called periods. And

13:23

also it's a breathing

13:26

point and then you can continue with odd.

13:28

Okay. So it's breathing Yes. Okay.

13:30

A posh comma in it. Yeah. Okay. Fine.

13:32

A breathing point is certainly how Rocky

13:34

uses it. Yeah. You're taking a breath while

13:36

you're writing. Whilst you take that breath, you'll just

13:38

pop a little semi head on in. Exactly because

13:41

I can't stop the flow, so I've got

13:43

to keep getting the words on. Once I get going,

13:45

I can't stop until that twelve hundred

13:47

words is written. We used to joke that you

13:50

did your writing on a typewriter, but you do have a computer,

13:52

don't you? Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. So what computer

13:54

do you do you do it on what you mentioned? As possible.

13:56

Great. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's a good tip for writing

13:59

writers. It's it's a It's an

14:01

Asus. No. Asus? It's

14:04

an anus. Something like that. An anus

14:06

computer. Yeah. The

14:08

other

14:08

one is a Lenovo. Because

14:10

I have two. What do you mean the other one? He's got two

14:12

confused. He's your flashy these days. Well,

14:14

when one breaks down because I've spilt some shardly

14:17

on it, you've gotta have a standby. This

14:19

is true. It's the golden rule. This is the

14:21

moneymaker. You gotta you gotta have your equipment. I

14:23

don't use the brain of the computer.

14:25

I have an SD card that I slip in.

14:27

The brain.

14:31

Flip in. God, it's just a suit Don't trust

14:33

the brain. Never trust the brain. When I have to

14:35

move to the other computer, because I spoke Sharpen and this one

14:37

after turn ups. I've done a little drain for two months. I

14:40

took the card out, the SD card, and I put it into

14:42

the other computer. And Bingham, I'm

14:44

I'm writing all this down. But at any

14:45

given time, there's a computer in a sack of

14:47

rice.

14:47

The one. Yeah. Does it say, Rocky, can I

14:49

film you using your computer? In the plastic

14:52

bag, in the freezer.

14:53

What you do with. Isn't that what you do with like

14:54

-- You're both -- merge evidence. And chewing gum

14:56

on clothes. Yeah. That's I don't think that's a solution

14:58

to spilling wine on a keyboard. You've

15:00

mentioned before about your time

15:03

line and how you've actually because like, you know,

15:05

we've obviously raved you little bit, but there's

15:07

been things that have kind of paid off like

15:09

the whole special one thing, East Berlin

15:11

being seeded early. So you do have

15:13

like a rough idea of where these books are going.

15:15

Is that right? Yes. You

15:18

want to elaborate on that? No.

15:24

I'm not here as a tutorial guide for

15:26

you, three people. Because I know you all want to talk to who

15:28

my place in life and write all these fantastic

15:31

books. Like James jumped.

15:33

Jamie jibed and us

15:36

alphabeted. They

15:38

sound great. So

15:40

what you're saying is, you know, some stuff has to

15:42

go to go to the grave because otherwise,

15:44

you know, that's your magic sauce that you're not gonna A magician

15:46

doesn't give away his tricks. This is true. I

15:49

want to talk a little bit about the

15:51

business aspect of the books -- Yeah. --

15:53

because famously these books

15:55

aren't just erotica, but that's not that's a

15:57

weird portion of what they are. They're also

15:59

businessmen.

15:59

Mhmm. So that was always something that you

16:02

kind of wanted to merge together.

16:04

Do you feel like you've really lived up to the business

16:07

aspect in these books? I think so. I mean,

16:09

actually Belinda. I met Belinda when

16:11

I was selling ready mixed concrete. In

16:14

Manchester, many, many, many, many

16:16

years ago, And Belinda was

16:18

selling me

16:20

cleaning materials. No.

16:22

This guy wasn't called Belinda. But

16:24

this She's the inspiration. She's one of the inspiration.

16:27

She had long black hair flowing wore

16:30

large black leather boots. Had

16:33

fantastic breasts. Okay. Great.

16:36

And and And and She sold me a lot of stuff.

16:39

But she did. She did. She kept coming back

16:41

every week for another order. And I would give

16:43

her an order of cleaning products. Yes.

16:46

Oh, wow. We were the cleanest ready mixed concrete

16:48

depot in the world of the UK. So

16:52

so why did the why did the world

16:54

of Belinda end up being pots and pans?

16:56

Because pots and pans are something

16:58

that we need to use every single day of our life,

17:01

sort of something that everybody can get their heads

17:03

aligned. Everybody knows what it is. first think

17:05

she was selling Titanic jet

17:09

condensers. Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't

17:11

have been relatable. Yeah. It's true. Because do you

17:13

feel like people who listen kind of

17:15

learn business from the book. Of course, I do. I

17:17

do get the odd email that's saying.

17:19

Or if you read the Amazon reviews actually, some

17:21

of them do say having read this book, I am now

17:23

been promoted to managing director. Wow.

17:27

You're changing the world. Change your life. That's

17:29

what's all about. Education. I want to

17:31

verify those. I wanted to

17:33

ask you about Jamie's interpretation

17:36

of some of your characters and some of the voices

17:38

he's given to Thank

17:41

you. It runs in the family. What

17:43

do you think of them? Do you think it's enhanced the

17:45

books? Are there some you don't agree with?

17:48

What's your take on the voices? I enjoy

17:50

them very, very much. I

17:52

think it's Irish accent lovely crap. Awesome.

17:55

But never mind. Bella, for example, Yes.

17:57

Very, very good. I mean, that was mister Mittelich who

17:59

brought that

17:59

on initially and

18:01

at further the inspiration for the voices

18:03

I truly feel came from. Hundred

18:05

percent. And it was very good because

18:07

he did this. Yeah. I think I think we're in the high

18:09

street. I said, didn't rush to backseat shoes.

18:12

I would die. I

18:14

I remember it well. It was perfect for Bella.

18:16

I'm perfect for Bella. Because Bella is up to a person.

18:18

I mean, Bella is very one of my favorite characters,

18:20

to be honest with you. And she's just such

18:23

if I want to an adult, I would go up with Bella.

18:25

Wow. Yeah. I agree. So much fun.

18:28

Bye. Come. You are not going to be Yeah. To that.

18:30

Welcome to be a fella. On a

18:32

night

18:32

out. I don't know who drink, who under the table.

18:34

Well, the champagne would be flowing. That's for sure because

18:36

she doesn't drink anything else these days. Yeah. That

18:38

is one of my favorite characters as well. There was one voice

18:40

as well that reached out. Jamie did German

18:43

accent for Petra? Yes. What did you think

18:45

of that? Yeah. Very good. Yep. I mean, the

18:47

fans love Petra. I mean, for some

18:49

reason, which which beats

18:52

me because she's really a nasty little get. They

18:54

love her. They love that. They do. They love all

18:56

the characters. You've really created some indelible kind

18:59

of characters for the world that

19:01

you you hear them for like a sentence, and then you just

19:03

bought out a spooner. I was really sorry to write James

19:05

spooner out of it because you never kill your your real

19:07

goodies and you never kill your real baddies.

19:09

So bish will live on forever. I mean, you

19:12

probably have a few heart bypasses, not a listener

19:14

of business, but you don't get rid of your big baddies

19:16

and your big goodies in in novel

19:18

intro business. You know, I show business.

19:20

So it's important that you keep

19:22

these people on screen.

19:23

Where did you learn that pearl of wisdom?

19:25

How do

19:25

you know that about killing off your goodies and

19:27

buddies? Oh, you just watch all

19:29

the big TVs and screenplays. I'm

19:33

watching north of the Rings prequel

19:35

at the moment, out of the Rings of Power. And

19:38

they should have killed that bloody elf

19:40

when they are there.

19:49

There you go. But but but then we wouldn't

19:51

have had a story though to your plans. Exactly

19:54

the Porno. Bond

19:56

and Blowfish. Like Blowfish had never died.

19:58

He just came back. He's with a fireman's yard.

20:00

And then we said we knew about Blowfish. He

20:02

doesn't have asthma. Right. Right.

20:04

Okay. Yes. Yes. And do you know how

20:06

we can deduce that? Khrysa was

20:08

stroking bloody cats. Like,

20:11

she's not allergic to cat. And if you have cat Which

20:13

is different to asthma, basically? She shed her.

20:15

But she means if you're asthmatic, it gives you a problem

20:17

because the hair is very short. It's lovely. But, okay, you have

20:20

cats with the wrong hair, and they are better for asthmatic.

20:22

So we're gonna perhaps blow if that's We're talking about

20:24

one big head to say, boy. The heat change has actually

20:26

pulled that hat break on, and we've gone four one eighty.

20:28

I

20:28

thought we were somewhere and the tone of voice suggests

20:31

that we're still on that topic, but we have

20:33

taken a very hard

20:35

left hand turn.

20:36

That answers your question.

20:37

It doesn't. But I but it's it's but

20:39

it certainly was a ride, an absolutely

20:41

ride. I also love that we now have the headline,

20:44

rocky slabs, rins without.

20:47

They show I've told you all. Can I ask

20:49

a really basic question which is

20:51

do you think the books are sexy?

20:54

Some of them, yes. I think the job interview

20:57

one in the first chapter of the first book is

20:59

pretty sexy. Mhmm. And suggestive,

21:02

because nothing's not the chilly where the Yeah.

21:05

But she slips off the seat. I mean,

21:06

it's more than suggestive. Private pussy

21:08

area

21:09

It's quite intense. How's this labial pinkness?

21:12

Yes. Yes. Labial pinkness? Not

21:14

these words like salt and pepper in your food.

21:16

You need to sprinkle these words in there and again to

21:18

keep the taste buds going. Right. I see. Okay.

21:20

He knows how to pull in a reader. Well, also, we

21:22

should talk about, like, your your kind of iconic

21:24

phrases, things like her

21:26

tits hung freely like pomegranates, the

21:29

rivets on the Titanic, the flesh of

21:31

mankind. How do you come up

21:34

with this. I've been amazing

21:36

metaphors. Yes. They are.

21:38

Thank you very much. You're

21:40

welcome. I've been wanting

21:42

to do the rivets on the Titanic ever since I

21:44

grew up in Northern Ireland, where the Titanic was

21:46

actually built. And of course,

21:48

I had relative who went down with the Titanic.

21:50

I teacher was actually one of the few who got saved.

21:54

So nipples and rivets are very, very

21:56

similar things. And you've wanted to

21:58

been sitting on that metaphor since you're a child, you

22:00

said? Oh, maybe about eighteen. Eighteen.

22:03

Okay. So I'm just waiting for the right time

22:05

to use it. You can't bring it into buying

22:07

a house in Brazil very easily. Sure.

22:09

Or or shifting cement. Correct.

22:11

Yeah. As he mixed his cement, his

22:13

nipples shrunk and became as

22:15

hard as rivets. Doesn't work. I like that

22:18

he knows what doesn't work. And

22:20

also, that is writing a replica isn't selling

22:22

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22:33

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22:37

part of the reason to share my dad's Porno with the world.

22:40

I mean, that's good to a Porno,

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but I would argue that you

22:44

possibly know offense intended, don't necessarily

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hold the professional qualifications that I

22:48

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22:48

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24:06

Really basic

24:08

question for you. Rocky Flintstone.

24:11

Where did that come from? That's been

24:13

dealt with many times before I do feel.

24:15

But I feel one more time, yes. Oh, sorry.

24:17

It came from Rocky com actually, I'm

24:19

a geologist by training by Yes.

24:21

My background in high school. So

24:25

look. That's it. That's

24:27

it. It's a Georgia high school. You

24:29

really? Yeah. I know. Yeah. And then I went on to university

24:32

to read it further. Yes.

24:34

Rockies are rocks. Rockies are rocks. Yeah. Right.

24:36

In Brazil, we have this friend of ours who

24:38

still have a good friend and

24:41

he had a dog called Rocky, a

24:43

big black Labrador beautiful thing.

24:47

comes from that lovely cartoon

24:49

called the Right. Yeah. Of course,

24:51

Wilmer comes from the Flintstones. Yeah.

24:53

And I do love the same. We're rocky No.

24:56

Fred gets left outside at

24:58

the end of the everything, and he's hammering

25:00

on the door to Wilmar. Wilmar. Yeah.

25:02

The dogs shut the Porno, And

25:05

it all came together very nicely. Yeah. They

25:07

they really tie up together lovely. They do. I mean,

25:09

I think it's great name. Like, I have to say, it's

25:12

it's so many people say, why was that not

25:14

taken? And in fact, Hana Barbara

25:16

have taken it because I did try for a

25:18

copyright on Flintstone. It

25:20

would let you have it. I got a five page debtor.

25:23

Did you really I did indeed. It's a cracker.

25:25

I've kept it. Mhmm. Someday I might

25:27

publish it with your permission. What's funny about

25:29

it is that they sent this letter to dad, and

25:32

they thought that they'd found his real name,

25:34

I guess, on the internet or something. But

25:36

it wasn't his name, And

25:38

I think they've been really really clever, don't they they're like, dude. I

25:40

think they called me Jim actually, which is good at that.

25:42

Yeah. Hello. And we both,

25:44

like, literally not his name. Where whatever you've

25:46

found that.

25:47

Was there a world where you would ever

25:50

have

25:50

not written under a pen name and would have written

25:52

as your real name? Never.

25:54

Why is why is that? You do want to keep a

25:56

small amount of privacy. I mean, I've got very nice

25:58

neighbors. Do

26:01

they know they live next door to Rocky stood.

26:03

Not many of them. Oh. I mean,

26:05

the poor man knows who I am. Because he never

26:07

says anything so It's very discreet. They are very

26:09

discreet. It's really fantastic people. Oh, because you get

26:11

mail saying Flintstone. Yeah. I

26:14

think that's what's been so nice as well is that everyone's

26:16

kind of been respectful of this.

26:18

And I thank you all for that. Yeah. You've been really

26:20

champion.

26:21

Fantastic fan base out there. Thank you, guys.

26:24

Yeah. They're the best.

26:25

We've all got to know each other pretty well

26:27

now. So I feel like we've done a lot of

26:29

of critiquing

26:30

a view over the years, which you've taken

26:32

very well. I wondered what

26:35

your impressions are of us. How would you

26:37

describe each of us to somebody else?

26:40

I think you're a very good cement. I mean, very

26:42

good if you look at a ready mixed concrete product

26:44

-- Right. -- or cement as you guys

26:46

in the States call it. And in the States,

26:49

you're really genius because you don't believe in messing

26:51

about with the stuff. You put so much water into it

26:53

and it's really really runny. But

26:55

you compensate to make it hard by adding extra

26:58

cement, which, of course, is an environmental disaster

27:00

because you're utilizing more sorry, guys.

27:02

I walked down that road. And I

27:04

said, what did we ask? What is your cement?

27:07

Our concrete is running. Our concrete

27:09

in the UK and Europe is much tougher,

27:11

much thicker. I'm showing. It

27:13

comes out of the barrel of the machine of

27:15

the chuck and forms

27:17

a nice little cone as it spills onto the

27:19

thing. I make lot of ready mixed concrete in

27:21

my life. It's just about concrete

27:24

now. And I would say that,

27:26

Alice, you're the you're the rocks. The

27:28

aggregate. The aggregate. James

27:30

is the sand and Jamie

27:32

is the cement and put the three of you together

27:35

and you get a really hard mixture after

27:37

twenty eight days. Oh, okay.

27:40

Like that. But it wouldn't work without

27:42

the water, which is you there? No. I'm the steel.

27:46

We want to make reinforced concrete. Right?

27:49

Oh, so who's the water? We need water dad

27:51

as woman. Oh, mom of water, of course.

27:54

Well, that's very flattering. I want to barely

27:56

go because, like, I've always felt that because

27:58

you you've known Alison James

27:59

for I

28:00

mean, here's ever. Yeah. But I always

28:02

feel like you kind of prefer James

28:04

to me. No. Absolutely. Yay.

28:08

Coming after Christmas rock, Rocky. Yeah. Quinn.

28:10

Quinn's late.

28:14

The other question is twenty fifth of December.

28:16

Like like always. Yeah. James, I think that

28:19

is definitely a favorite. Than Alice,

28:21

than me. But that's fine.

28:22

I don't know. I am, like, I'm in and out

28:24

of favor,

28:24

aren't I? No one else. You're the the

28:28

But perhaps you should be the steal in the

28:30

believe company. You said, damn right. Yeah.

28:33

Why are the sand? I'm not sure. happy being

28:35

the sand. I'm every room, man.

28:37

No. Sand is great. If people are sick on the playground,

28:39

you Porno You're like

28:41

Sandford. Sand makes glass. Sand makes

28:43

glass. That's true. You should be the still because, Dad,

28:46

you can be the rock. Being rocky. Yes. That's

28:48

true. Yes. Well, let's make it a run a bit. Yeah.

28:50

It's really in a shame. So

28:53

really, there's about a one order. It's not too big.

28:55

You're still in the cement. Concrete. I'm still

28:57

the cement. You're the cement regardless. You're

28:59

the cement. Okay. Thanks. But you are actually

29:01

in this whole team because you're actually the the glue.

29:04

Yes. The second thing. You are the question

29:06

master and the reader. Those guys comment

29:08

with their criticisms and stuff. And

29:10

it's purely facts. She liked the images material. That's

29:13

it. That's

29:13

it. So a modest man.

29:14

I mean, honestly, like, couldn't have

29:17

expected a bad answer to that question. We

29:19

are reinforced concrete as

29:21

as like a gang. I kinda like that. Yeah.

29:23

People have tuned into this podcast and all the

29:25

game is concrete or cement

29:28

to you guys in the states. A lot of people actually

29:30

worry about you having your right reply. They think

29:32

we're really really mean to you. You are?

29:34

No. We're not. No. We're not.

29:36

Is it okay? And he knows it won't be picked

29:38

up on the bike? Do you think

29:40

we are? Who do you think is the meanest to?

29:42

Arshil Levin. Yep. I'll say so.

29:44

This is a this is a stitch up. It's

29:46

too sharp, isn't it? It's when she doesn't have to laugh afterwards.

29:49

Sounds like a real She asked all the interrogative

29:51

questions. Oh, so the smartest is what

29:53

you say. James

29:57

Cooper is my friend. We're good mates. That'll

30:00

be rocky. Yes. We we email each other

30:02

about Fucking sucks. -- such a teacher's part,

30:04

I can't believe it. Excuse me. Rocky.

30:07

Yes, Jim. Who keeps this project on

30:09

course? James, you're the p r man. You're

30:11

brilliant. Thank you. Social media,

30:13

whatever. Think

30:16

that's a compliment.

30:18

I know that this is uncomfortable,

30:20

which is my favorite

30:22

part of doing the show. I'm gonna

30:24

I'm just gonna ask it, and I just want you to you

30:26

promised to be

30:27

truthful. I'm trying my best. Okay.

30:30

Are the scenes depicted in

30:32

the book? Ever

30:34

taken from your sexual experiences

30:37

or your or

30:38

or your fantasies.

30:40

Every single one of them. Broking.

30:44

Nice. Yeah. Honestly, I keep going back

30:46

to the flushing the teeth, but It's so true.

30:49

Let's do the other one where the blue comb

30:51

sprinkles over the wedding cake. Do you know how that

30:53

came about? Oh, how? No. One

30:55

of our big supermarket chains produced

30:58

some hair conditioner, which was light

31:00

blue colored or medium blue colored,

31:02

And as I was scurtying over my head to

31:05

do my hair, it spattered down onto my

31:07

torso. I thought, good.

31:09

God. What a fantastic Oh.

31:12

Oh, my god. Oh,

31:14

my god. It splattered onto

31:16

my tongue. So And

31:20

you thought, oh, that'd make lovely cheers. That

31:22

is rough, dad. Oh, my god.

31:24

Should we should Let's move on to lighter topics.

31:26

I just wanted to ask you, obviously, we've done some

31:29

incredible things on the journey of

31:31

this podcast. We've done live tours. We did

31:33

physical book of your book. We

31:37

did the HBO special. I was just wondering

31:39

what some of your best memories or

31:41

highlights of the project have been. Been so many

31:44

James. I mean, I think sitting down and writing

31:46

that first set of words blinda

31:48

blinked. It wasn't a dream. The job interviewer

31:50

had just asked her to remove her blouse. Must

31:53

be the highlight of the whole thing for me. So Right.

31:55

At the beginning, nothing else since Yes. Yes.

31:58

And I'm seeing what that produced

32:00

Yeah. It's phenomenal. I mean, it's absolutely

32:02

unbelievable. Yeah. Like, you couldn't live in expected

32:04

way. No. No. No. So beyond the

32:06

writing of the actual first chapter, which

32:08

obviously without that, we wouldn't have a show.

32:11

What are some other kind of highlights along the way

32:13

for you? I certainly enjoyed Australia. That

32:16

was good touring in Australia because they're very friendly

32:18

out there. And that's not to say that the UK

32:20

or the USA aren't. It's just

32:22

different because I think we were

32:24

there. Was it springtime? Yeah.

32:26

Yeah. We unfortunately had those fires,

32:28

which is real, real shame. But Yeah.

32:32

Because you're

32:32

never in the audience, are you? You always sit in a very

32:34

special secret side of stage bits. So

32:36

it's Sydney Opera House. You were you don't always have

32:38

the best view, but I feel like what you get to do

32:40

is watch the audience.

32:41

Yeah. I really know I sit behind a big

32:43

thick curtain and just listen. So

32:45

it's really a podcast for you every night. It is

32:47

absolutely. And is it true that mum

32:50

like, on on this last tour, mom would sit with

32:52

you when you listen to it together and then

32:54

at a certain point, mom would just

32:57

slake off and go downstairs to the

32:59

rest of the room because she wanna listen to. She has never, thank

33:01

God, heard the last five words of

33:03

the latest. Okay. Live

33:06

show. Live show. It's quite it's quite blue.

33:08

Yeah. It was quite blue. But, you know, that's

33:10

what's interesting about these books. You know, they are

33:12

about women though. You know, they're about the Glee

33:15

team, they're about Belinda. Why did you

33:17

write pornography from

33:19

a woman's perspective? Well, you've

33:22

told me about the vector factor? The

33:24

back tell test. Yeah. The back tell test. Yes.

33:26

The back to a factor. Yeah. Well, I prefer

33:28

to call these things because I I always changed

33:30

things a bit just to stop the lawyers from

33:32

getting to and -- Yeah. -- to absolutely leak on you.

33:34

Why is? Yes. So

33:37

I'm a very big feminist I mean, I really

33:39

should have been born a woman, but it doesn't.

33:41

So there you go. It had to be about women.

33:44

Do you feel like Belinda Blink is a feminist

33:46

novel?

33:47

Yes. And did you ever have

33:49

creative ambitions? Because obviously, you've always

33:51

worked in quite labor intensive jobs.

33:54

Like, had

33:55

you always wanted to be creative? Well, I think

33:57

I've always been creative in my private

34:00

life by doing

34:01

gardens and all this sort of thing. Seemna,

34:03

I'm Wilma says I'm one of the best landscape

34:05

gardeners around. Do you want you've done mine? Do

34:07

you do you do a beautiful job? Yes. That's

34:10

just basically I mean, I get all the people who

34:12

do the heavy work now. Moment is all the

34:14

lifting of the sword. It's

34:17

just battle all that. Yeah. Yeah. As I do the

34:19

technical type direction

34:20

of the walls and Those

34:21

little hands, they're good at digging earth aren't they

34:23

absolutely fantastic. Not

34:26

to turn

34:26

this into family counseling session. But

34:28

we've been doing this for a long time together now, the four

34:31

of us. And I sense

34:34

little

34:34

change in your relationship with Jamie.

34:36

I feel

34:36

like having a project together has been

34:38

a nice thing.

34:39

Absolutely. The last project we had together

34:42

was when he plastered or pointed

34:44

the walls of our house in France, which was

34:46

a three year job. Yeah. And quite a

34:48

different job to reading your point of

34:50

view. Artistic. Very artistic. I

34:52

mean, I tell you, you think building is not artistic.

34:54

It's one of the most artistic things in the world can

34:56

do. What's the episodes of Am I? Creating

34:59

something for a long time in the future

35:01

-- Yeah. -- which is what we've done with these books and

35:03

this podcast and all the live shows

35:05

and all the rest of the stuff that you guys

35:07

will be doing in the future. Oh.

35:09

Oh, that was very restrained of you, very

35:11

good. So do you think that because

35:14

a lot of people

35:15

I here. I think it's kind

35:17

of laughable that a son reading his

35:19

dad's pornography out loud would be something that

35:21

would bring you closer together. But

35:23

I think It has. I mean,

35:25

how would you describe

35:26

how your relationship is now eight years on?

35:29

Jamie is a very complex individual. Oh

35:32

my goodness. Could not agree more. Could

35:34

not agree to. Fried. And that's

35:36

the result. He has to be approached gently.

35:40

About many singers. I

35:43

give you the analogy of walking over egg

35:45

shells without having to make a noise. Wow.

35:48

At Diva. Diva, you talking about I mean,

35:51

just before you arrived this morning, I would say he

35:53

was having a bit of one of those moments. A little bit here last

35:55

night, and we were putting the gate on. I

35:57

was telling him about that, but he gave that.

35:59

So, yeah,

36:01

he's a complex character. But at the end of the day,

36:03

he has a very, very, very, very attuned sense

36:05

of humor. Yes, he does. Yes.

36:07

And that's what brings him his

36:10

feeling about. Genius in

36:12

putting all this lot together and delivering

36:15

it to our fans. Oh. We go.

36:17

That's nice. So your hard work

36:19

be funny. Deaver,

36:20

but you have a kind of

36:22

superpower. Never said Deaver. That's

36:26

the complex egg shells. Complex

36:28

egg shells. You're a complex egg. You're

36:32

a complex humpy dump too. Okay. I

36:34

suppose that's And if I am that way, there's

36:36

any one place I got it from and that's you. So

36:38

that's very complex. Indeed.

36:40

I mean, everyone's complex. I think that's the thing

36:42

that, yeah, we've learned so much more about each other

36:44

in every way imaginable during this show.

36:47

You say, Al, we've been traveling the world together with business

36:49

partners. I read your Porno. there's many

36:51

levels that we're working on here. But

36:54

I'm really glad that we did it. Are you glad that

36:56

you wrote these books? Absolutely, and

36:58

you know, Linda Blayne is cathartic. I

37:01

had to all this stuff written down that I had

37:03

experienced in my lifetime before I forgot

37:05

at all. So

37:07

it was essentially a diary. What you say. It's

37:09

an autobiography. Autobiography. No.

37:11

It's not. That don't be

37:13

so But some of it is autobiographical. It's

37:16

all true, Alice. Yeah. Even even the Humskunk.

37:19

Absolutely. And that would work. I

37:23

mean, Pearl, Des Martin. He doesn't stand

37:25

a chance in the real world. Okay. And

37:29

he's my favorite RSM, by the way, if you would ask

37:31

that question. Okay. Good to know. Can you use

37:33

this of close a second. I love his cellar in Leeds. That was a real

37:36

story actually. We actually lived above that cellar.

37:38

So we lived in Leeds. Yes. Well,

37:40

my night. Well, thanks for telling the author priorities. Turn

37:42

out the guy below was actually a copper -- Oh,

37:44

god. -- twist. Wow. What I'm sucked.

37:47

Very oh, God bless. Is there

37:49

is there anything you'd like to say, obviously,

37:51

everyone's gonna be listening to this episode. Everyone

37:53

finally wants to hear Rocky voice.

37:56

What would you like to say to all the readers,

37:58

the listeners out there? This

38:00

is your platform. It's been a privilege

38:02

to be honest with you, help people through the startup

38:04

times of their lives. The pandemic,

38:07

of course, rock havoc with people that

38:09

they didn't get to see another friends for maybe two

38:11

years because they couldn't leave the building. Because

38:13

they're one way or another affected by

38:15

this horrible

38:16

thing. Porno, it's been privilege

38:19

to be of service to mankind in

38:21

that. And you guys have helped spread the message really,

38:23

really good.

38:23

I I agree with you though. Privilege is good

38:26

word. I think we've sort of accidentally, I

38:28

don't think we could necessarily have predicted it. Created

38:30

a community, created big gang,

38:33

and people come to us for

38:35

escape, and that feels like something

38:37

really special that we can offer, doesn't

38:38

it? Yeah. And one of the things about the podcast

38:41

coming to a conclusion is you can't

38:43

keep going forever. It's a fantastic

38:45

time to bring the podcast to an end

38:47

because Belinda has succeeded

38:50

beyond her wildest dreams She's now

38:52

in charge of this mega maniac business

38:55

corporation. You've said it.

38:57

Yeah. Yeah. And and it's it's

38:59

it's amazing. And I don't want to

39:01

find them to think that's the end. It's not the end.

39:03

It's something else will happen in a different, slightly different

39:06

way. Exactly. And whilst

39:08

we may not release the podcast

39:10

anymore because it's a really good place

39:13

to end. I don't see any reason

39:15

why I should stop doing what I do? Absolutely

39:17

not. Well, we've tried stopping you. If we haven't stopped

39:19

you by now, we're not gonna stop you from here on in. Are

39:21

we? So watch this space

39:24

ghost and there you go. There's a tease. That's

39:26

a fact. Do you feel

39:27

like as a writer, you're

39:29

gonna leave a legacy behind?

39:30

Yes, because anyone

39:33

who writes anything will leave it behind

39:35

because you we're not staying in this

39:37

earth forever. We got I've got another ten years approximately

39:40

before LUSMA Marbles. No.

39:43

Maybe Think how much is a while ago? That's well examples.

39:46

You've got to find them first. So

39:50

that's that's an inevitable situation.

39:52

But in the meantime, I can do a lot of stuff.

39:54

What an adventure though, Hey Rocky? Mhmm.

39:56

Hasn't it been amazing? That's been amazing. Because,

39:58

like, you know, to Alice's point,

40:01

so many people around the

40:03

world have read your books and been

40:05

inspired by Belinda, whether it's through

40:07

artwork, People have recorded their

40:09

own songs, show me that Pomegranates and stuff.

40:12

What does it feel like to kind of have created

40:14

a piece of work that has inspired other

40:16

people? Not just people that you know, people

40:19

that you'll never meet. I think it's your duty. I think

40:21

it's all our duties to inspire all the people. I

40:23

should we're we're lucky we've been rewarded

40:25

financially in a small way by doing it. But

40:27

the bigger goal is to bring

40:29

people love and which is what think we've

40:31

done. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more.

40:33

And hope Yeah. One day, there too will

40:36

rise above life is shit, but we all

40:38

move on. There's another blunderlink reference. it's

40:40

true. That is that I've got that in my

40:42

toilet. It's a it's a big inspiration. And

40:44

also, because it's like, you

40:46

know, you're in your sixties when this

40:48

all happened. What would you say to

40:50

people who've lives maybe hadn't panned out

40:52

the way they'd hoped and that they think that

40:54

that time has passed. No. You have to have supreme

40:57

confidence in yourself. There's no doubt about it. A new

40:59

guys have it because you do other things outside of

41:01

this podcast. Which you have to stick your neck

41:03

above the parapet and do every day of your lives.

41:07

So it's all about being confident in what

41:09

you do. Now you will never

41:11

be one hundred percent successful,

41:13

anything you do. But if you meet that one percent

41:15

grain of success and challenge it

41:17

correctly and guide it and make it work for

41:19

you, be it buying your

41:22

retirement home in the countryside or

41:25

buying yourself a horse that you can love

41:27

and ride and all this, sir. Achieving

41:30

your small goals, which might then

41:32

lead to bigger goals, you might decide you buy

41:34

your horse, then you've got to buy a little field

41:36

for to live and you buy little field anything.

41:38

Oh, I enjoyed this. I'm doing a podcast of riding

41:40

horses in my field and become a multi million

41:42

dollar YouTuber. There

41:45

you go. I'm gonna buy a horse. It's

41:47

decided. Tuffy apple chew. Yes.

41:50

So never give up, basically. Yes. Never give

41:52

up a message from the cornerstone. And buy a horse.

41:54

And buy a horse.

41:55

And never bank on where you think the

41:57

answer's

41:57

going. I mean, never. I mean,

41:59

I hope that

41:59

this has really given context to the books.

42:02

You can always see the moment it starts to go the

42:04

track -- Yeah. -- can't you? Like Yeah. What

42:05

is it called is it called aqua plating? You know,

42:07

when the car is just sort of, like, oh, wait. Like,

42:09

it's kids. Run away train. For sure.

42:11

You are runaway train in uniform. Now,

42:14

dad, have you brought your harmonica with? I have.

42:16

I never go whenever we've had you all. Yes.

42:18

We can't end the episode without

42:20

a blast from Rocky. Alright.

42:22

Now I might be bit rusty. That's alright.

42:25

I asked you earlier, like, have you ever played

42:27

the theme tune and you don't think you have what you thought

42:29

you might be able to have a crack at it? Yeah. But I

42:31

don't know the same true word. I only listened to

42:33

the podcast once. Mentioned

42:35

very well at all. Rocky the play

42:38

is out with his comment. It's the only way.

42:40

And he can play an old favorite to

42:42

warm up with maybe. Oh, that's brilliant. Oh,

42:45

oh, he's back. He's got it. It's

42:47

so shiny. What in the repertoire. Lots

42:49

of Irish stuff. Lots of Australian

42:51

Irish stuff. A bit of French

42:53

stuff. Anything

42:56

with names or just No. Just stuff.

42:59

Okay. Okay. Okay. Stuff. Because you won't recognize

43:01

as reduced stuff at well, because it's a famous song

43:03

from the books. I don't suppose you can play where you go,

43:05

let's you go. I could try and do that

43:07

sort of stuff. Okay,

43:09

ish.

43:25

Oh, wow. Wonderful. It's

43:27

really good. I'm sort of the right level

43:29

of kinda melancholy. It's not a bit of

43:31

sweet. It is. Okay.

43:33

I mean, I guess that brings us to the

43:35

end then. Right? Yeah. We've asked the questions. We've

43:37

done the homologous. We can't talk

43:39

that. So